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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Tunicate posted:

The US basically has ended up subsidizing pharma research for the rest of the world, especially because of loving Lieberman.

That would be good, but the reality is this:

Shear Modulus posted:

its really more like the US has been subsidizing big pharma's astronomical profits

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

cops and paranoid gun owners are the most cowardly pieces of poo poo

But you repeat yourself.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

If you steal a cops gun he can't shoot you

Unfortunately his buddies still can :/

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Poniard posted:

arm the working class with spears and crossbows. if you think spears are boring you can have a montante I guess.

Actually arm them with guns, specifically "military style assault weapons"

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Retromancer posted:

GUYS ITS HAPPENING

THE SOCIALIST PARTYof South Africa IS SEIZING THE LAND OF THE RICH WHITE PEOPLE!

https://www.theroot.com/for-the-descendents-of-south-africas-colonizers-the-tim-1823440236

Nice. Hopefully it doesn't turn out like the last time a bunch of white farmers in africa were kicked off their land. If this turns into a bunch of socialized not-for-profit farms, then this is great and awesome. If it's just the same neo-liberal poo poo, but now 8% of black people own 72% of the farmland, then ti's trash and only trash people should support it.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

MonsieurChoc posted:

Yeah, my friend was talking about this and was saying that South Africa is basically Zimbabwe-ing itself.

Please prove him wrong thread, I know nothing of the subject.

My basic ignorant take is that if the intention is socialist transformation then there will need to be a lot of policy around that. If it's just a selfish, racist, land grab then we will have zimbabwe situation.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Vox Nihili posted:

New forms of action, including an explosion of white supremacist terrorism,

an “explosion” of white supremacy terrorism. lol you are so reactionary

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Vox Nihili posted:

Yeah, Trump gaining power had no effect whatsoever on white nationalism, I say with a straight face.

everything was completely fine and dandy in America until trump did 11/9. also it was poor white people that caused the current problems.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Kung Food posted:

but it's the lack of consistency with conservatives that drives me absolute mad.

same but the current democrats and online liberals.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
A diamond bladed guillotine might be useful to handle the abundant quantity of uses that the blade will no doubt have to endure.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Vox Nihili posted:

Oh right, things were already bad, therefore they probably couldn't have gotten even worse.

And it was the poor-white people who made it worse, somehow.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

I thought that was just the business of Theranos, why are the prosecuting that poor woman?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
When I first went skiing the ski-lift was 5 dollars all day, I think it's in the hundreds now.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
gentrification is a somewhat complicated subject and the blame for driving out the locals is ill-targeted on the slightly richer person moving in. the blame lies on the slumlords and politicians who had no intention of cultivating a neighborhood to begin with. they sellout as soon as the offer is large enough, then you have good old capitalism appealing to the lowest common denominator, and the neighborhood becomes McMansions. new people move in because their only other option is to not move to the city at all.


tl;dr gentrification is easy to avoid, and is arguable one of the specific tasks a city council
should address, but the gormless officials are typically not interested in making things better for everyone, preferring instead to make things better for themselves.

understand what the rentier class is, and support policies that undermine them, first and foremost. ignorant people with sophomoric ideas of what gentrification actually is aren’t the appropriate target.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

zeal posted:

so you're a gentrifier, huh

Nah, I refuse to pay over market rate for places I live, even if they are "up-and-coming." Additionally I'll never be rich enough to gentrify anything. But if I ever did get that rich, I would buy carriage house, and do something highly unusual, I would just live in it. Not turn it into "an investment" or whatever dumb poo poo people do to ruin the neighborhood.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Coolness Averted posted:

rent control and blocking developments based on tier of housing, so instead of "No you can't build a 5 story building," it's "No, you can't build 5 stories of luxury condos, but 5 stories of median rent is okay." Of course that would require a city to say 'no' to higher tax revenue from the luxury condo building.

I'm also not convinced that they get higher tax revenue in the first place. At least in NYC luxury condo's usually don't have to pay taxes for decades. The most expensive residential building ever built (432 park) has a tax abatement worth hundreds of millions because of crony-capitalism.

http://gothamist.com/2013/07/14/exemption_gives_rich_people_obscene.php

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

hmmmmm yes, would you say that you are a social liberal and fiscal conservative??

No.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

Crony capitalism is a term coined by smart assholes to condition stupid assholes to not question the underlying structure of capitalism, it doesn't actually mean anything

It is literally exactly what cuomo is doing and bloomberg did with new york city housing development. It doesn't paint the underlying system in a positive light at all.

quote:

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism.

:thunk:

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Crony Capitalism is worth defining on it's own as a subset of capitalism because it demonstrates a failure in government systems that are supposed to be "fair." I.e. If a government needs to build highways, those contracts are supposed to be available to the public at large to bid on and potentially secure on an even playing field for all bidders. Crony Capitalism ensures that is never the case. It's a much more insidious and harmful application of capitalism.

Regardless, the Crony Capitalists and especially the elected officials that enable them will obviously be put to the guillotine all the same.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

MizPiz posted:

It's definitely not more insidious than the "pure and noble capitalism" you're imagining, and it's arguably less harmful since the purpose of those bids is to go with the one that's going to be the cheapest. If we did things they way "they're supposed to be" we'd end up with a bunch of roads built by contractors who just pour asphalt in a straight(-ish) line and run a steamroller over it.

This doesn't necessarily need to be true.

Also where is this "pure and noble" capitalism idea coming from? All capitalism is bad, but not all capitalism is equally bad. In fact if you want a way to completely neuter any potential improvement to anything ever, you can just boil it all down to "it's capitalism, man" and resign yourself to join the history of every leftist, accomplishing nothing.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

Crony capitalism is a good phrase because it immediately alerts you to the fact the user has no idea what the gently caress they're talking about and can be ignored if you're not in the mood to engage for educational purposes

Sorry Comrade, being triggered is a guillotinable offense.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Don't let your ideological enemies define the language you use.

Namaste

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Dreddout posted:

This might work better if the language you were using wasn't an intentional weasel word designed by your ideological enemies

I'm using it to define the specific type of capitalism that occurs between nominally elected officials and capitalists, I do not give a single gently caress what word my ideological enemies use, and neither should you.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Southpaugh posted:

Yes but in this instance the purpose of the conversation is to communicate, and you used a term which is associated anarcho feudalist peasants. Hence the confusion. Digging your heels in doesn't change that.

Fine I'll drop it, I just think this definition perfectly describes the housing situation in New York City and doesn't repudiate the larger capitalist system at all.

quote:

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Hi I'm Crony and by acknowledging my existence as a problem you have chosen to worship at the altar of ayn rand.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

I truly feel for their plight. sentence: guillotine.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

theflyingexecutive posted:

they wouldn’t even need to build a homeless shelter anymore!

What pragmatic solution.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

That's a pretty good subtle burn by the journalist there.

It's from politico if anyone cares.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/04/06/trump-young-conservatives-college-charlie-kirk-turning-point-usa-217829

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

No way, foreign investment is totally great and helps the economy, idk what you're talking about

*buys dilapidated shitshack in Hongcouver for $1.4mil to shelter capital

Vacancy Taxes.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
If we had the materials to build one, The People's Space Elevator would be a triumph for the United Federation of Earth.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ruzihm posted:

first u gotta launch it into earth orbit, then if u wanna stop it from orbiting u gotta use enough energy to change its velocity by about 108,000 km/h so it falls into the sun. A little less change would suffice but this is easier math.

That second part just for a 50 kg body, requires about 583 Petajoules (quadrillion joules), which is just a little more than 2.5 tsar bombas.

some1 let me know if im wrong


but blowing up ayn rand with about 3 nukes sounds pretty fun.

What's the difference in energy required if you launch into a jupiter orbit, or even better, what is the minimum energy path and time, assuming no gravity assist? Actually isn't there a website that calculates this poo poo for you, including a minimum energy for various orbits?

Upon reading up more, the solution is still "a lot", and the amount of time is immense. Which is a shame really.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Teal posted:

Does this have actually any legs to stand on in the US law? Because it doesn't, here, and the first court it'd go to would rule it clearly in a shortened hearing.

If the only reasonable access to [public place] is through your property then you're obliged to leave it accessible.

It'd be up to state-law, not federal law, and since California is the epitome of rich parasites saying "fygm," the dude might end up being vindicated.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Again? Or is just the continuation of thing that Samantha Bee was doing 2 years ago?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
guillotine panhandlers, problem solved. You have a basic income that you can use as you see fit why are you asking for more?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

CharlestheHammer posted:

If only we thought of using this vast store of wealth earlier, so many problems could have been avoided.

Yea that would have been good. But, better late then never, imo.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I know it’s difficult to understand, but historically racism wasn’t based on skin color.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wheeee posted:

the best part is that automation is going to annihilate white collar jobs before it begins touching stuff like trades and manual labour

I don't think you have a solid grasp on the labor market, friend.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I went to a state school with a nationally accoladed engineering program.

but the types of people that go to Harvard aren’t the types of people who work or are smart or constructive for worthy projects, they are the type of people who should be guillotined along with their parents and family pets.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

RabbitWizard posted:

Also, the movement data from the employees is probably used to teach an AI to do that job with the cheapest robot arms available.

That's extremely good. Because warehouse packing should be 100% automated as soon as possible. Of course, Amazon needs to be nationalized as well, but I don't particularly care which order it happens in.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Almost like this "leader" in women's health was really only interested in her own bank-account's health.

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