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Captain Splendid posted:This is unironically one of the best Star Wars duels edit: for clarity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLqliBa4yc Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Apr 4, 2019 |
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A muppet fighting Count Dracula with laser swords is the most Star Wars thing ever, and you're a big dumb dork.
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Apr 4, 2019 20:24
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galagazombie posted:R1 in general is the odd man out of the Disney films when it comes to design work. The ships, droids and costumes were all distinct and memorable while simultaneously looking like they come from a deleted scene of the OT. Say what you will about the film
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Apr 9, 2019 13:51
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I honestly don't know what a "massive backlash" means in the context of TLJ still pulling in well over a billion and several times its production budget. Solo not so much, but that was a very troubled production. Strangely, all my friends have Issues with TLJ but enjoyed Solo. I can't help but think that's in large part because Solo is an adventure story that doesn't really grapple with anything meaningful.
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Apr 10, 2019 18:28
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The Republican Party has the support of maybe 30% of the people, but controls all three branches of the federal government and most state governments because our electoral system is massively rigged. So I agree, we have millions of people with a lot of misdirected energy, having these political arguments about and within cultural products because real political struggle is a non-starter.
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Apr 11, 2019 15:16
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Maz is a lousy character because there's really nothing to resolve there. She exists to deliver exposition and a lightsaber. Yes, she puts off the question of where she got it with "A story for another time" but Rey might as well have found it on the ground.
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Apr 22, 2019 20:34
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The entire industry of YouTube people making reviews that are longer than the thing they're reviewing should be eliminated by a Stalinist purge.Dr.Radical posted:I thought his deal was weed. He was/is known as a prolific cheefer
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Apr 23, 2019 13:48
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My initial impression of Episode IX, which time and reflection hasn't really changed, is that it's a Star Wars ripoff that just so happens to be an official Star Wars movie. As the final chapter of a story I've been following since I was a toddler, it's almost criminally irresponsible. I deeply loathe the sort of nerd who quibbles about how magic powers and warp drives work, but fantastical settings do need some rules, or else the story is just "And then this happens, and then this happens, and then this happens..." from start to finish. Episode IX plays out like a Star Wars story ad-libbed by a little kid. It's Star Wars: Episode Starcrash: Axe Cop. Now you can have hyperspace chases across the galaxy in the span of a minute, sure. The Force can teleport things and heal wounds and grab spaceships and disable an entire fleet, sure. The entire sequel trilogy was a plot by the same villain, sure. Palpatine has an entire military literally hidden under a tarp on a secret planet, sure. A "Third World" coalition materializes out of nowhere to save the heroes. We never find out who the Knights of Ren are, but there's a stadium-sized Greek chorus of more spooky robed wizards. Also Leia was a Jedi this whole time, and some other stuff I don't remember. Episode IX discards all logic in the service of pastiche, and I think that in that regard it mostly succeeds. It's got dogfights, gunfights, and lightsaber fights. (I'm a lightsaber fight guy and I was pleasantly surprised by the amount and quality of lightsaber fights.) The Palpatine reveal is dumb as hell but also perfect: it's a mishmash of plot elements from Starcrash and Galaxy of Terror with a bit from Battle Beyond the Stars.
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Jan 1, 2020 22:24
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Currently, my favourite Official Star Wars Pastiche is "playing the arcade mode of Battlefront II while waiting for the story mode to load." I can be Kylo Ren or, even better, the Stormtrooper With Extra-Fancy Gun.
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Jan 1, 2020 23:48
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I'm of the impression that JJ is addicted to making Trailer Moments .
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Jan 2, 2020 05:04
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Thanks to Wookieepedia, I now know the truth about the Knights of Ren, and once again it's gloriously stupid. They're the Sons of Anarchy, but they dress like the demon bikers from Mandy, also they don't have bikes. Abrams said they were going for a Mad Max vibe, but with Star Wars being a 70s New Age deal, it's impossible for me not to think of stuff more like Psychomania and Werewolves on Wheels. It's a dark mirror to Luke becoming a hippie warrior and creating the First Earth Battalion.
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Jan 2, 2020 18:12
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mycot posted:The Reylos are ultimately right because Kylo Ren's and Rey's endings suck and don't actually resolve anything (other than who Rey's parents were in the most literal sense I guess??)
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Jan 2, 2020 18:16
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I'm weirded out by people who presumably self-identify as antiracist, anti-sexist, etc. zeroing in on things like Kylo saying "You know I can take whatever I want" and making him out as a symbolic Abusive Boyfriend, instead of his command of a vast fascist military machine.Straight White Shark posted:It's outright stated that they have to give away their own life force to do that, so it's pretty clear that between a dead person + a seriously injured person there's just not enough to go around for both.
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Jan 2, 2020 18:37
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I'm going to assume that the lawsuit is for defaming and slandering Kylo Ren.
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Jan 2, 2020 18:59
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I can't help but be curious about when they're going to make media set post-Episode IX, because the way they hosed around with the setting really makes it anything-goes from there on out. Are there any more remnants of the Empire left? Is there a New New Republic? Is Rey gonna start another Jedi temple? Was R2-D2 just piloted by porgs the whole time? I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled the same stunt from Star Trek: Into Darkness where they just retcon the change to how warp drives work.
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Jan 2, 2020 19:08
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I don't expect Disney to produce spin-offs in every medium for decades; I expect them to hyperexploit Star Wars until the franchise is burnt out, because that's what capitalism does. AFAIK, everything they have coming out and everything they have planned is set before the sequel trilogy, so they don't have to resolve any thorny issues.
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Jan 2, 2020 19:25
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Why would she? It was established early on that she has no friends because she thinks she's better than them. Luke taught her how to sit on a rock and think about waves and flowers, not empathy.
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Jan 2, 2020 19:41
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Tom Tucker posted:Reboot and recast everyone and do the Thrawn trilogy. Edit: And Han and Leia had a son that fell to the Dark Side, right? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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Jan 2, 2020 22:03
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Jedi being severed from the force is such an excellent characterization hook its a crime they didn't use it.
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Jan 2, 2020 22:49
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Eimi posted:Also you can argue Grey Jedi have been a thing since the OT since Luke does a poo poo job of acting like any of the other Jedi shown, Grey Jedi are based on an dumbass understanding of the Force that conforms to the alignment charts from AD&D. It's for nerds with broken brains.
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Jan 2, 2020 23:36
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Leia merges her mind with Kylo’s before Rey stabs him. This kills Leia’s body, as we see, but she has uploaded herself into Kylo’s head - and communicates to him in the guise of Han. So to repeat, for those not keeping track: Harrison Ford plays Princess Leia, disguised as Han Solo, inside the mind of Kylo Ren - who is himself inside the mind of Rey, who is her own grandpa. At the end of the film, Rey also pays respect to Owen and Beru Lars, therefore literally becoming the female Luke she figuratively was at the start. I miss you dreadfully!
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Jan 3, 2020 18:33
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Currently, the thing about Episode IX that I keep thinking about is that it makes the entire nine-film series into Sheev's Story.
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Jan 3, 2020 18:56
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To that you must add the plot points that were implied to be meaningful and then just go nowhere, like the Knights of Ren being nothing. Solo was full of that sort of thing.
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Jan 3, 2020 19:24
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And then, in Episode IX, they can go to hyperspace at a moment's notice and wind up in a planet's atmosphere. Which raises the question of why armies don't suicide-bomb entire civilizations with a few starfighters traveling at multiples of C.
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Jan 3, 2020 19:49
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Indeed. If I could instantly teleport my car to a specific spot in Philly so I don't have to drive all the way there, I wouldn't warp into traffic.Basebf555 posted:I know it's nerdy as hell but that hyperspace skipping thing was extremely galling and felt to me like a slap in the face of basically the entirety of Star Wars up to that point.
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Jan 3, 2020 20:03
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Starks posted:I thought Kylo putting the helmet back together was an extremely salty swipe at Rian Johnson. Like JJ knew the movie was poo poo and was already making excuses for it.
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Jan 3, 2020 22:56
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Palpatines can jump to hyperspace, it's another thing they invented just for this one.
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Jan 4, 2020 15:52
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I'm watching it again on IMAX tonight. Yes, yes, I know.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:38
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Low Desert Punk posted:i honestly don't know if it's possible to make a film that the hardcore star wars fans wouldn't like
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Jan 5, 2020 07:46
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Random crap: Battlefront 2 has a scene where you play Han Solo. You're trying to meet an Imperial informant at Maz's bar. You beg Maz to identify the informant, and she eventually agrees. She admits she doesn't know the guy, and suggests you ask around the bar, which you would have done anyway before the cut-scene interrupted you. Maz is the most worthless character in Star Wars. The Little Death posted:Kylo is not a consistent character, because Rian tried to actually give him a character arc instead of what JJ was doing. I mean, if you think about what Kylo was saying in TFA, he was essentially a Darth Vader cosplayer, the equivalent of becoming an Anime Nazi because your grandfather was Goebbels. istewart posted:I've always felt like Kylo Ren in TFA was a focus-grouped villain meant to appeal to Disney's target families... he's an over-privileged suburban white kid who's throwing a temper tantrum because he didn't get the toy or video game that he wanted. (How do I know? I used to be just that kind of kid!) Much more relatable, and much less intimidating (and potentially nightmare-inducing) than imposing figures like Darth Vader or Darth Maul. As far as I know, Disney didn't try to stoke a "Lady Ghostbusters" style controversy via marketing. Episode IX is all about fanservice, and it's easier to satisfy people with laser fights and cute puppets than with character moments, where it's especially hard to please as many people as possible. Encouraging a bunch of mini-fandoms that are all rabidly opposed to each other, so that you can never do more than appease one segment of your customer base, is the opposite of what Disney wants. The Marvel brand is where Disney creates these epic political conflicts with huge stakes, then makes everything about the characters' personal relationships. If they were doing the exact same thing in Star Wars, Kylo Ren wouldn't have to die--it's totally okay to redeem Space Hitler because he became besties with Space Truman. Unoriginal Name posted:So the guy who gives the keynote speech at the First Order nazi rally on the day they blow up the Republic is the guy who turned spy Clarste posted:He has no ideals, just hate. And he hates Kylo Ren. Makes sense to me. Hux was never comfortable with the religious aspect of Snoke's regime, and now that he's dead, Kylo Ren spends all his time on holy crusades with his smelly biker bros, going after Palpatine when he should be finishing off the Resistance. Meanwhile, Hux has been demoted to a meaningless cabinet position. He hates Kylo's guts, but not for entirely personal reasons. Vitamin P posted:They even had a C3PO death scene, just have him die to broadcast his translation skill over the same magic network Palpatine was using to scare people and bam, that's a good narrative, but no they had to make everything be pointless and empty instead. SuperMechagodzilla posted:I’m honestly surprised that fans aren’t absolutely furious about this. Undead Palpatine gets all the attention, because everyone loves the prequels, but the actual massive twist in ROS is that literally every conflict in Star Wars was the work of the Exogolians from planet Exogol. Barudak posted:I just realized with this being "High Republic" era disney will be unable to resist including Darth Plageis or the inventor of X-wings Hobo Clown posted:Who is Snoke supposed to have been a clone of? Is it a poorly grown and rushed version Palpatine? Random Sith mook #6731? Grown from the Force like Anakin but without a human mother?
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Jan 6, 2020 20:21
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The Little Death posted:Right, I'm saying that Kylo is a caricature of Darth Vader, himself originally a one note antagonist representing the opposite of Obi-wan in ANH. Kylo in TFA is not a person, he's a cardboard cutout who's motivation appears to be mimicking his grandfather (who he never knew or met) because "something" happened that drove him to it. He seems to be evil for the sake of evil, it's not even clear why he wants power, or what he is angry at. This is because JJ Abrams doesn't think in terms of realized character arcs, but thinks of characters purely in tropes, references, and cliches. Rian took that and tried to set up a theme between Kylo's obsession with his legacy, and Rey lack of legacy, to try and come up with a story to tell. TFA has no story to tell, nothing in it matters or leads anywhere. I'm not a fan of Abrams, but Johnson is the one who gutted Kylo's motivation. In TFA, Kylo begs his grandfather's spirit for strength to reject "the Light" and "finish what [Vader] started." Presumably Luke told his students the truth about Vader. Kylo believes in Vader's mission to bring order to the galaxy via dictatorship. TLJ makes it personal--Kylo was very hurt by Luke, and Snoke "corrupted" him because he wasn't thinking straight. When Luke shows up, Kylo loses his loving mind. Luke is cool and calm about this. He is the better man. Kylo's not! He's dumb and so goddamn crazy!!!
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Jan 6, 2020 21:06
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Mike RLM's fan canon was this is the real Palpatine and the one from episodes 1-6 was a clone the whole time. I'll add to that and say he was Syfo-dias Why do people watch that crap? It's like a half-step above CinemaSins.
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Jan 6, 2020 22:03
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Rey Skywalker is, the Palpateen.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:10
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JagerNinja posted:This actually reminds me of the Imperial Radch series by Ann Leckie. A single emperor overseeing a galaxy would kind of be terrible, so the empire is ruled by many clones of one emperor that are all kept in sync over the vast reaches of space to keep a united front. Until they fall out of sync and the emperor ends up in a civil war with herself. Which is a way better Star Wars plot than what we got.
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Jan 7, 2020 01:51
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McCloud posted:Disney need to stop spreading out the story over 20 different mediums to cash in on fans desperately buying this stuff in the hopes it will fix the "plot holes" and offer a coherent narrative
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Jan 7, 2020 02:11
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:(Pop Quiz: can you name the other Star Wars character who wears only gold, and sits on a throne as god-king?) 
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Jan 7, 2020 05:16
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There aren't any fictional bad guys that haven't been compared to Trump by someone at some point, so the point is moot.
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Ignis posted:Isn't everything in Nature force-sensitive by default or...??? It's not just a theoretical problem, because it leads to moronic fancanon like Grey Jedi, and interpreting "Palpatine clouded the Jedi's vision" to mean that he literally cast a magic spell that blocks their Detect Evil spells. Magic artifacts are the worst inclusion in the canon--the biggest mistake in the Clone Wars series, and possibly dumber than anything in Episode IX. Franchescanado posted:I've watched the whole thing with friends who have Disney+, and it's pretty good! It's the closest to "Star Wars Western" as we're gonna get outside of the train robbery in SOLO, and it has a nice sense of adventure. Surprisingly worth the hype, and I was prepared to hate it. Darth TNT posted:Does anyone know if the Knights who say Ren were force users? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Lift rocks, burn trees, every day.
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YaketySass posted:As the complaints about the prequels expanded a particular kind of liberal commentary developped on the franchise, trying to pin what was wrong with that particular setting.
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