[Non-Doomsday Economics] Democrats end expanded entitlements, bailout Silicon Valley

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Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Mr Hootington posted:

https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1384860508654800899?s=19

make sure to read the comments on this one

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 21:04

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:15

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

lol my mom earlier chatting with me on the phone, she's super nice, but also has a terminal case of lib boomer brain, forever aiming for the stability and the status quo, was saying in relation to most western governments: "What the hell are they doing? And now we have variants incoming that might restart the whole lockdown thing again? And food prices going up? People are gonna go mental. We're gonna see a rebellion or something with all this. And I wouldn't blame them." (paraphrased)

That was a crack ping if I ever heard one. The viral reality working hard to unmake the constructed reality of boomers.

# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 23:06

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

TACD posted:

no that�s loving dumb

i want to buy the portion of pi containing the sequence 42069420

that's gonna be super expensive though, the value is per digit of a pCoin...

# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 11:02

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

UnknownTarget posted:

I think we are in that trope. Hardly anyone knows how things work or why and the people that do are aging/have aged out of the work force. Meanwhile we haven't updated any infrastructure so we're running on that old tech with old assumptions but no one who understands how they got there in the first place.

It's like how everyone just accepts all these roads and cars and 4 person households in the US as a fact of life rather than something that spring up in the last 100 years. It's just assumed that someone, somewhere knows about it and they're making decisions based on that knowledge. But those people either don't exist anymore or are only tangential to power.

So we exist in a society and economic structute that exists because it was already here when most of us got here and most people assume that the reason it's still going is because someone is in the cockpit flipping switches but the reality is we've been flying on autopilot for years and there's no one up front. That's what I think is going on.

this is mostly true of the US and their vassal states only due to their particular brand of insane capitalism. It�s about losing institutional knowledge any time a government cuts a system to let the private industry take over. Over generations it creates the systemic rot we are currently seeing.

# ¿ Apr 28, 2021 22:55

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

lol the mom was right �take the half million instead of gambling. �
edit/
woops wrong thread. but gonna quote anyway since it�s relevant to number

Alan Smithee posted:

tangent but if you haven't seen this watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13cjtMSiq4

$1 or $1 million

lol

# ¿ May 5, 2021 15:07

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

mila kunis posted:

wtf is with all the pro-landlord people in the comments

they�re landlords

# ¿ May 6, 2021 12:59

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

re:SSD crypto chat,

aren�t HD much more durable than SSD? why not use them?

# ¿ May 8, 2021 19:44

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Mr Hootington posted:

This is correct and is backed up by the fact that the amount of money given in reverse repo is growing daily.

what about when the international value of the dollar craters as other countries lose faith in it?

# ¿ May 13, 2021 20:44

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Reality Protester posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/1395061668359544832

carbon offsets

isn't that account run by his daughter or something?

# ¿ May 19, 2021 20:45

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Red Baron posted:

it�s Memorial Day

"member number

# ¿ May 31, 2021 15:13

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

If you're rooting for American irrelevance that is very unlikely to happen in our lifetimes IMO. The best case scenario is that America will follow the path of UK and its influence will slowly wane.

But even in the case of UK, the shrinking and eventual end of the British Empire were widely attributed to two back-to-back world wars that left the country decimated and its populace uninterested in imperialism. So without similarly huge shock(s) I don't think America and its hegemony are going anywhere.

climate change is happening, and the coming shock is going to be gigantic. it doesn�t need to be a world war.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2021 23:10

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

I don't agree because the effects of climate change are being felt too slowly for it to count as a shock compared to a world war where you may lose millions of your youngest and most productive people within the span of a few years. Like, sure, we've been getting bigger and stronger hurricanes but those are mostly local, or regional at worst.

Also forest fires, also droughts, also flooding, also flash freezes, etc. it�s more than just �local hurricanes� and those are already causing trouble, considering the piss poor state of US infrastructure.

quote:

In addition, IMO Europe will have it much harder than the US as a result of climate change. They couldn't even handle ~100,000 refugees from the Syrian war, there's no way they'll be able to deal with millions of climate refugees from the places that'll be extra hosed by climate change: Middle East, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, etc.

India, Bangladesh, Myanmar and other far eastern countries aren�t going to migrate all the way to Europe. there are so many better place to go that are closer to them. it�s mostly Mediterranean adjacent countries that do so and will do so.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2021 23:35

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

lol Titanic is playing on TV right now, it�s at the part where the captain is staring at the rising water in his cabin, and it feels incredibly on topic with all of this.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2021 00:21

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

i like the fever posts. they make me feel im in a cool late night coffee shop/bar with like minded ramblers.

# ¿ Jun 4, 2021 15:14

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Yeah. Millennials are in a very narrow, specific band that grew up on a whole rear end computer or later a laptop instead of some other device. You think the average kid knows how to navigate a folder tree? Half the questions in an OSS game discord I'm in are from zoomers asking things like "how do I put songs in game installation folder? what is that? where is that?"

i blame apple and its popularity. this is one case where people using windows have a bit more of an idea of what a drive is and the tree like structure of a computer. everyone else that I know using a macbook basically only know of the "download" and "desktop" folders

# ¿ Jun 21, 2021 17:50

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Casey Finnigan posted:

I wonder how my old job is doing. they suddenly laid me off without warning and then they called me back to offer me the job again three times. but each time they refused to hire me as something other than an independent contractor or give me higher pay or give me benefits.

I make more money on unemployment than I ever did working, in my life lol

lol, did you talk to them the three times? just always asking the same �you can have me back, for full time and at +X.PreviousSalary.� and then you repeat the same poo poo every time they come banging their head like morons.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2021 18:59

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Relevant Tangent posted:

Look up the Commonwealth and prepare to be shocked at how many of those nominally independent countries answer to the crown in one way or another. The Queen fired Australia's PM in 1975 and she could have the same done to Canada tomorrow.

I don't know how Australia works, but for it to happen in Canada, Canada would have to ask the Suzerain to do it, which the Suzerain would then be obliged to do. They're a rubber stamp that does what they're told.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 12:27

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Relevant Tangent posted:

The Queen's representative has to agree to confirm Canada's PM, there's no method to force them to, and they can wake up and decide Canada's PM shouldn't be and there's no appeal. Power that isn't used is power still. Rubber stamps aren't real. We're allegedly leftists, being aware of how power works is important.

The Queen does that and she gets removed as head of state.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 14:23

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Relevant Tangent posted:

This is a thing you believe, not a thing that has happened. The last time the Queen did this to Australia, nothing happened to the monarch's power over Australia.

You're equating Canada to Australia in your calculation of precedent application of the Queen's rights, as if the inner workings of both countries are one in the same. A sizeable portion of Canada's population are now much farther removed from the idea of the monarchy being able to do things in 2021 then they were in 1970. Also, as far as I recall, Australia has since tried a few times to switch to a Republic. The Queen's very own action fueled that movement over there. To say that "nothing would happen" is tantamount to ignoring the past discontent that these very actions fomented.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 14:43

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Bar Ran Dun posted:

https://splash247.com/congress-to-debate-amending-us-shipping-act-next-month/

They might ban international container liner carriers from refusing US exports. This is uh possibly uh... Wars start over this type of stuff.

FMC would regulate foreign ships that call US ports directly if this passes, that�s unprecedented and it would fundamentally alter international trade.

Also

https://splash247.com/white-house-readies-supply-chain-disruptions-task-force/

??? I don�t understand this news. the us is going to force passing containerships to take their poo poo to other countries??? can�t the receiving countries just say �lol no�?

someone explains to me as if I was a touched child

# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 22:41

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

Its boomer poo poo now to compare prices to what you remember them to be.. nothing will ever be as "cheap" as it was . Why would a 2x4 ever be $2 again

don�t nerf prices! boost salaries! it�s the ARPG balancing woes all over again.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2021 14:28

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Fellatio del Toro posted:

most people go to space and see how small the earth is and gain a new perspective, bezos spent 10 minutes in a universe with no labor laws or regulations and came to this conclusion

send bezos to mars

# ¿ Jul 21, 2021 14:53

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Mirthless posted:

if I, an autistic person with a severe emotional impairment who dropped out of high school could pull myself up by my bootstraps and build a career, you can do it too buddy

no. you have to understand this is anecdotal.

someone else with the exact same conditions and caveats as you could do the same and get rebuked. it�s not that your special, it�s that you got lucky with your circumstances. and that�s ok. but you have to understand luck is not something that befalls everyone. otherwise it wouldn�t be luck.

you�re asking others to play the luck game and �try anyway, you might win like I did!�

most people can�t afford to �gamble�

# ¿ Jul 21, 2021 18:27

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Sven, I like you, but I�m sorry, Lady G is waiting. Truly sorry.

# ¿ Jul 21, 2021 23:10

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Mirthless posted:

not likely, at least for a while. a lot of apartment management companies are on the verge of bankruptcy right now, so there's probably going to be a gigantic inventory shift and then massive renovations projections to repair neglected units, which is all going to cost a ton of money, which will then be reflected in rents. On top of that, hundreds of thousands to millions of people all looking for somewhere to rent in a hurry will do obscene things to rents in places without controls

the eviction moratorium was a terrible solution to the problem of "how am i going to pay rent" because it does not answer the question, it just makes it so the landlord can't do anything about you not having an answer

i mean, gently caress the landlord, to be clear, but if the landlord is obligated to make repairs and pay employees etc out of the rental fees, eventually the rental company starts running into the same situation you're running into: "I have all these bills, and no money to pay them with, and yet they keep piling up". While all these landlords were not able to evict their tenants or collect rent, the city was still charging them for water bills, still charging them for gas, still charging them for city services and state taxes and federal taxes and fees etc etc. And, again, to be absolutely clear, gently caress landlords, but our whole renting economy is based around this stupid relationship between landlord and tenant and government and the government's refusal to help people OR let landlords landlord is a perfect example of the kind of lovely compromise our two party system yields us time and time and time again

One of the shittiest gigantic slum complexes in our city wasn't getting rent from a huge portion of their tenants because they were one of the cheapest places to rent in town. But, uh, they also happened to be on prime real estate. They've been trying to jack their rents up for years but they're a 100-unit complex so they're big enough and notorious enough that their reputation alone is what dictates the value of the real estate they operate, basically. As long as people were paying rent on time they couldn't easily kick them out, but without evicting most of the residents they couldn't successfully rebrand. Covid-19 was a great opportunity for them: when they stopped collecting rent, they stopped repairing buildings and paying the water bill. The department of health managed to beat out the eviction moratorium but they wouldn't have been able to get away with this poo poo in the first place if the government had just subsidized rents for a year

yeah because the solution is communism (ie: the state waves off having to pay for water, electricity, land, so that people might stay without having to pay for a roof. basically nationalized housing. so of course this isn�t going to happen. )

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 16:49

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Azathoth posted:

There's this idea from some here that events like this will quickly bring about a critical mass of people in America who have nothing left to lose so they'll be suddenly amenable to violent revolution, and that's just not true.

A lot of people being evicted have families and jobs (even if they're so underpayed they can't make rent), and still have a lot to lose if they're violently beaten by the cops or tossed in jail. Losing their home is just a step in that process and most aren't going to be willing to risk making things worse. At a minimum, they still have hope they can turn things around.

Where the real Cool Zone starts is when we've got huge shantytowns full of previously "middle class" folks who are now locked into grinding poverty with no hope of getting out. Numbers way beyond anything since the Great Depression. We're on the road to that now but even this is just the latest signpost, not that inevitable destination.

we are still waiting for a great Khan of the homeless to rise up, firebrand the people into a large, unified army of the masses against capital.

And lo and behol� they shall have brought all under their umbrella, and from shanty to shanty, they amassed their following until they reached a shining jewel on the hill, and destroyed it with all the hate they hath nurtured.

Popoto has issued a correction as of 19:33 on Jul 23, 2021

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 19:19

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

overmind2000 posted:

A guy with at least one alt

as always, it�s projection all the way down.

# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 17:00

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

pnumoman posted:

Some people just see private vs public and become completely stupid

Well, in some places, public has been gutted -so- much that it is indeed not much of a choice if you really want your kid to get a decent education. But let's say people can pick, would it be cheaper to send to public school with an added private teacher compared to going full private? No idea of how the prices end up.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2021 14:06

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The whole "nations won't do something stupid" idea necessitates that the people in charge of those nations aren't themselves very, very stupid.

Kennedy, Castro and Khrouchtchev were three rational individuals that brought the world to a hair�s breath of Armageddon.

in the end, rationality will not save us.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 08:01

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Xaris posted:

what the gently caress

khrushchev and kennedy were actually negotiating end to cold war which very greatly upset the cia when they found out. castro didn't want to do poo poo. cuban missile crisis was largely manufactured as a result of the likes of allen dulles and other bloodlusted airforce generals

you misunderstand : they very well might have done what you say, but it doesn't matter, they still got within minutes of being forced by events to launch all out nuclear warfare. in the end they lucked out. they were both rational but it's not what saved us. luck did.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 14:14

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

GoLambo posted:

What is the point of them signalling this now? Somebody help me understand how there is a rational process behind this. Even a cynical one. I just don't get it.

blame deflection

# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 16:39

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

spacetoaster posted:

So how much longer until normal people start to see the writing on the wall in regards to looming shortages of things they just expect to always be in the store?

When the stores are out and there is a taped sign saying "out of orders for at least two weeks to a month"

# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 16:54

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Re:HOA

It's pretty loving funny to me that the country that is in an eternal rant about communism and socialism and how it forces you to do stuff for the community before yourself ends up with these shits. It's always projection.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2021 13:45

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:

But all bullshitting aside Political Science has probably done more damage to American political discourse than Fox News at this point

gently caress it just Major in Humanities

I still don�t regret quitting polisci after two semesters. The teachers were fine, the content depressing and the other students loving sociopaths.

went with history instead.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 12:23

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Rutibex posted:

political science is just history with extra propaganda

basically why I discovered yeah. I mean history has a poo poo load of propaganda too, but at least we point it out when it�s obvious.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 12:48

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Koirhor posted:

3% on food is a loving lie

well you see, actually, if we average out the price of all the food, including the cheap canned stuff that's good for years, it's only 3 p! sure if we just check at stuff like bread, milk or potatoes those have shot up 50p but who eats that -really-?????

# ¿ Aug 11, 2021 13:59

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

gradenko_2000 posted:

It's needing eight hours of sleep in one go that's a capitalist construct. Before the advent of modern lighting and factory work, people would sleep in approximately two stretches of four hours each - first just after sundown, then again by midnight or a little after, getting up at dawn.

Once factory work became a thing, sleeping for eight hours at a time became normalized so people could work their shift in a single stretch as well.

but don�t you need seven hours of continuous sleep to reach deep sleep? without it as far as I know your sleep is only superficial and doesn�t heal.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2021 08:18

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

net work error posted:

Edit: ^ that would mean a working class bailout which lmao

Saw this article on car prices earlier today:
https://jalopnik.com/could-the-used-car-market-finally-be-cooling-off-1847488015

we just need to subsidize landlords with empty houses :smug:

# ¿ Aug 16, 2021 01:13

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

the new hot poo poo now with all these monthly subscriptions for �x� as a service is to charge monthly for something that you can only cancel after eleven months.

that�s yearly not monthly you fucks

# ¿ Aug 21, 2021 01:51

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# ¿ May 13, 2024 22:15

Popoto: Oct 21, 2012; miaow

Feldegast42 posted:

gotta keep bringing up that the dems BARELY got a house majority and tied in the senate in 2020, a time when everyone was fired up to VOTE and Trump hosed up a loving pandemic

now that the dem base has deactivated again because the orange man is gone forever I don't see any way to keep up that enthusiasm in 2022

hell if the votes went exactly the same way in 2022 the dems would lose the house automatically simply because of reapportionment, not to mention all the sick gerrymanders the GOP are gonna draw to give themselves 40 seats

I'm not gonna bet, but I absolutely would not be surprised to see President Trump in 2024

# ¿ Aug 23, 2021 16:21

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