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runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



TheLastRoboKy posted:

You should ask Beer about his correspondence with Sandi.

She sounds like Vincent Adultman from Bojack Horseman when she talks about herself & her accomplishments while emailing with Beer.

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runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



G0RF posted:

An entirely reasonable point somehow survives first contact with /starcitizen...

Is this somebody here? I'm having trouble keeping up with all the alts...

It's me. Not an alt. Also my Twitter & CIG account name.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



G0RF posted:

It bore the telltale signs of a regular; lucidity and candor. Sorry I didn't recognize you but keeping track of every name is proving a challenge.

Oh, I'm nobody to recognize. I had been lurking for a while but haven't posted in yeaaars. Literally.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Fuzzy Modem posted:

That being said, I'm sure I have known terrible people without realizing they were terrible, but no, I do not believe Sandi- look, she would have to have, like, a split personality, which is possible, but pretty unlikely. I'm very done talking about it now. The Sandi bashing is the reason I DONT like this thread. I have nothing further to say on the matter.

So what you're saying is that she'd have to be a pretty good actress to be able to pull off the two-faced bit, but since she's clearly not an actress of any great esteem clearly she must be genuine?

That's a pretty cold way to come to the defense of your dear personal friend...

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Colostomy Bag posted:

Has Roberts coined a term for his newly invented strategy that will forever change the industry? I tried searching for Active Automated Tactile Development but that wasn't it.

Active Interactive Development System?

"We here at CIG have A.I.D.S, do you?"

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Wise Learned Man posted:

One of the many things I really don't get about their operation is the commitment to pushing lots of little patches (especially when they often have to undo changes that break stuff). With the huge downloads their crappy patcher requires, can the illusion of progress that frequent patching provides really offset the annoyance it elicits among their dwindling playerbase?

That illusion of progress isn't cheap. The 2.0.x patching to PTU & then live was almost half a million bucks worth of bandwidth.

You'd think fixing & optimizing a crucial game infrastructure problem like patches that burn money & goodwill in equal measure would be a tip top engineering dev concern, but evidently the brain trust they have in Frankfurt is too busy extending the CryEngine to make planets rather than fixing basic problems that should have been fixed day 1.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



I see the lack of bids has forced the beloved contest-winner-turned-dev to chop a thousand pounds off his ridiculously overpriced, storage-free space heater with custom vinyl stickers you can't get anywhere else (except at any place with a vinyl cutter, like my local library.)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/StarCitizen-Official-Unique-AMD-based-system-TNGS-1st-prize-/161963648949

Looks like Dolvak may get the case of his dreams after all!

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Beet Wagon posted:

Man, everybody in this thread hatin' on my favorite mouse. I wish this place was more like /r/starcitizen so I could downvote you all straight to hell.

It's my current & favourite mouse too. I'll stand with you.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



aleksendr posted:

But still useless without a Character Editor. There is only so much you can do with "white dude in spacesuit"

They're seeding the character editor with facial scans of their staff. So even after it's out I'm guessing it'll be pasty white dudes as far as the eye can see.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Paladinus posted:

I thought quantum leaps cause it and it occasionally happens to everyone because of bugged physics. But maybe only with stolen ships, after all.

Someone logging out will despawn all of their ships.

The quantum fallouts are likely at the center of a 3- circle Venn diagram with each circle labelled "30 ticks/second server", "poorly implemented local physics grids" & "near-relativistic speeds"

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Paladinus posted:

So when someone nicks your ship, the only thing you can do is restart your client and go through pains of spawning it again? Lmao.

No, just go spawn a new one. There's no tracking of what you've previously spawned, just a list of what ships you've got available that you can select from ad nauseum.

Remember: the persistent universe is neither persistent, nor a universe. Discuss.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Paladinus posted:

Can you spawn more ships from inside of a ship? Like, you get 50 people in your super multicrew ship and then respawn it to kill everyone inside.

For muh immersions, ships cannot be spawned anywhere from a menu, but only at one of the ship terminal rooms behind janky, slow-animated & often-breaking airlock doors and slightly-less-often-breaking interior doors.

You could jam a bunch of people onto a ship under the guise of some crazy mostly-invisible, noodle-box-pushing "emergent gameplay" and then wait until you're in the middle of nowhere then log out, leaving them floating like the detritus they are.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



A Neurotic Jew posted:

List of features for next 4 Alpha iterations:

- Show Room
- Clothing Shop
- Weapons Shop
- Outlet Mall
- Arabian Market
- Bank where you can buy store credit*
- MoCapped NPC that reminds people that a substantial portion of the game has been released, as voiced by Andy Serkis.


*store credit not valid in-game.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Booblord Zagats posted:

Thats why I just rob prostitutes

He said beat the house, not beat the hos.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011




I'm honestly shocked I didn't get downvoted to oblivion.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Oh my.

The $100M hangar-flair War Bond? It's 100 UEC. How much is 100 UEC? A dime.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Speaking of stretch goals & documentary films, wonder how the $14M stretch goal is coming along.



How do you turn a 4 year long slow motion trainwreck into a feature length documentary? Shouldn't they be getting Ken Burns on the case? 18 hours of jpegs sliding across the screen with a voice over is what this glorious event deserves.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Scruffpuff posted:

The question that immediately popped into my mind was: had they not reach $14 million dollars, what exactly were they planning on having happen when you logged off? Character death? A glorious explosion?

Has anyone logged off without crashing?

Evidently if you have a bed you can log out away from ports of call. If you don't have a bed once you disconnect they turn your real-world-money ship into an AI entity & have it pilot to the closest safe landing zone. Hijinks may ensue whilst your ship is still in-verse but you are not.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



AugmentedVision posted:

lmfao is there a source for this? lol just lol at the idea that the default plan is to have AI takeover, which is somehow easier than the stretch goal of removing the ship from space on logout.

quote:

Q. What happens on a disconnect or rage quit? Do I lose a life?

When you disconnect (or otherwise quit in flight) the server attempts to take you to “auto pilot”. If you’re in a space instance (i.e. not already in warp/ auto pilot) and close enough to a hostile the server will attempt to gain enough separation to enter auto pilot. If it’s successful the server will then place your ship back on the planet you last landed on. If not, and you haven’t managed to reconnect to your AI controlled ship before the hostile destroys your ship it is assumed you ejected successfully and will be returned to the last planet you landed on. If you have insurance will have a new hull waiting for you. We will monitor player’s disconnects and if we feel like you are “gaming” the system we may enact a “death” penalty on you and decrease your internal life count.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/12879-Death-Of-A-Spaceman

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Daztek posted:

No worries, they announced new concept ships coming soon!

Now available only in-game at Astro Armada: The RSI Firetruck3000. Because space is full of fire. And evidently oxygen.

(Guess that's why the helmets seem optional in Crusader?)

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Cattes?



Cattes.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Ash1138 posted:

are these cattes in ginyu force or what

I believe this is the cover of their hip hop album.

The album is terrible.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



G0RF posted:

Whoa. New procedurally-generated gameplay footage shows combat in a canyon! NOW WE'RE TALKING!



Oh wait. That's a concept video? For an upcoming sale, maybe? So it's not actually representative of anything you'll be adding to the game in the near future?

Not cool, guys. Not cool.

Well, they gotta get SOMETHING on sale soon. They've not been selling at least one limited ship for days now. The free fly isn't generating enough revenue to keep them revenue positive. The Reliant (ship in the foreground) is due to hit the hangars soonish so they need a new banner image to go with that announcement & associated sale. So there's that.

Still terrible.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Romes128 posted:

That ship looks like it's screaming in pain

You'd scream too if you'd been filled with ghostly noodles by two clones

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



How much of the difficulty in implementing "The Vision" is due to the initial wrong choice of the CryEngine & the endless doubling down on that first terribly wrong choice?

e: 1782 catte

runsamok fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Feb 6, 2016

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



aleksendr posted:

Its not as much "choose" as it was offered by Cryteck to do his prototype used in the Kickstarter for free (or very cheaply) if he used the engine.

And that is serious catte goodness.

It's always seemed like the stupidest choice for an engine. CryEngine is pretty, but isn't really built for diverse gameplay. It's the engine you'd choose if all you wanted to do was make something pretty with zero substance or complex mechanics. Like a game about screenshots & jpgs, not fun.

Oh. Wait.

And thank you. She knows how pretty she is, so I won't pass on the compliment. She's insufferable enough as it is.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Jon Do posted:

I am missing out on whatever some people are smoking. Her appearance isn't the issue at hand -- though I've always felt that if you point a camera at yourself and release the results to the public, it has a minimal bearing at least -- but drat is that some denial.

She'd be a lot prettier if she didn't look like she had an eating disorder and a doctor with a bucket of botox ten feet away at any given time. She gives me an alien, uncanny valley feeling, like her jaw is going to unhinge as her eyes turn solid black, and then she's going to consume someone's soul.

That being said, it's a LOT more relevant that she's both a poor actress and a terrible person to the people who have sent her and her husband money. She could be 500 pounds with terrible acne scars, if she was a decent person; it'd mean a lot more than her looks.

This has me hyperventilating so badly that my cat came over to see if I was OK.

Thank you for this.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Scruffpuff posted:

The engine was a huge part of it. The doubling-down doubly so. My money on the real problem, though, is on the insistence of having FPS and space flight using a single engine with no loading screens, necessitating the logarithmic complexity in integrating FPS, space flight, gravity on multiple planes, EVA, and huge spaces to hold it all. Chris tried to build the matrix with nothing but hopes and other people's money.

My question is though is how much of this added complexity is from using CryEngine as the basis of this unified experience. Would Unreal Engine 4 or Unity or something be better?

I know nothing about game engine featuresets, but can only extrapolate how bad CryEngine must be as they seem to be gutting almost everything except the renderer to make it work & endlessly blame the engine's weaknesses for reasons their bodge jobs don't quite work out.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



fuctifino posted:

I think it's time for a picture of a cat



runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Khanstant posted:

Is there any info on the greater cosmology of the SC universe? Who are the top gods and where are the sweet planes of existence? What happens when u die in SC?

The "legit" answer is all your gear & consciousness transfers to your pre-selected next-of-kin & you start the whole cycle over. It's like space buddhism. The eight fold path of Christ Roberts.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

That's a cool looking fish, in my unartistic opinion. What's $1000 UEC worth?

$1USD

Which makes the 100 UEC War Bonds they gave away to backers for the $100M "thank you" gift worth a cool thin dime!

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Eonwe posted:

Leaving the casino - up $1300 an Idris

There, I SC-ified that for you.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



A Neurotic Jew posted:

so curious about the numbers they're getting from this...

They've sold about 12000 ships in ~12 days & I think around a million bucks has come in. Not all of that is inside the free-fly window, but it's hardly a rousing success.

Of course, their burn rate means a million bucks also went out the door & that's not even counting the grift from the big cheeses.

runsamok fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 6, 2016

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



boviscopophobic posted:

Was it ever determined whether the UEE Fleet number was an accurate count of ships? I'm looking at historical data, and there are a few interesting instances where the fleet # stays the same or decreases, while the funding continues to increase. For instance, back in October 9-12, the fleet number decreased by 171 while funding went up by 1.7 million.

Also, it's apparently still possible to get the fleet number, it's just not visible on the website.


Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Where you got those numbers? They don't publish ship sales do they?

They took it off the Funding page, but the fleet count is on the front page, 3/4 of the way down.



As to the figure about there 12 days, I posted in a Reddit thread when it was @ 902k 11 days ago.

That being said, it's also true we have no real loving clue what any of these numbers really mean.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



fuctifino posted:

So active citizens = forum accounts registered, and fleet number = total active ships purchased?

I believe so, yes. Maybe? Some people say fleet count doesn't count packages but that makes no sense since the game downloads are attached to ships in the hangar, not the other way around. I wouldn't put it past CIG either way.

e: removed ambiguous "it"

runsamok fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Feb 7, 2016

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

That's what lando said

I can't believe they still get those numbers. I guess they still get a boost from the glorious 2.0 release or some poo poo?

It would be cool if they had pulled a Bernie Maddoff, but I'm still leaning towards Poe's law on this poo poo

It's impossible to get how many real unique backers there are, given there's people like this:



How many Space Kias does one whale loving need!? Even if you wanted to throw money at CR, why buy multiple lovely econoboxes?!

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Ag Bengip posted:

drat, this wonderful cat looks exactly like Tjuormas. Norwegian forest cat, I assume? Deaf from the white fur gene?

She's a Norwegian Forest Cat but has perfect hearing in both ears. We got her from a really excellent breeder & she had her hearing tests included with her paperwork. She's the best cat I've ever had.

When she was very little she had a little sooty thumbprint on her forehead that faded as she grew up. Now she's entirely white from head to toe. Evidently her little smudge means she's far less likely to carry the deaf genes.

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Google Butt posted:

you don't know anything about game development, thought invalid.

"They know it sucks. It's on the roadmap to replace entirely, so why waste time in the interim fixing this one up?"

This applies to:
  • the tutorial
  • the ui in menus
  • the dashboard ui in every ship
  • the chat system
  • the friends list
  • the lobby system for AC
  • basically the entirety of the quality-of-life fixes

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Phi230 posted:

This is brilliant. If I ever make a game I'm going to set up extremely delusional-level goals for my game and dismiss all criticism with "but its not the real game yet"

The only way all that stuff could be on the back burner would be if your actual game engine itself was almost literally on fire.

Oh.

Wait.


Carry on CIG, carry on.

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runsamok
Jan 12, 2011



Happy 1812!

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